tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post3581330233423461648..comments2023-10-16T06:16:42.086-04:00Comments on Blue Dog State: Pets Alive: Animal Sanctuary or Animal Scam?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-57973505239432948532012-03-09T10:35:17.726-05:002012-03-09T10:35:17.726-05:00I wouldn't give the ASPCA a dime of my money!!...I wouldn't give the ASPCA a dime of my money!!!! They're behind the Paulin "quick Kill" bill & they also have done everything in their power to prove that no-kill doesn't work when it does. They're ok with killing millions of companion animals every year. What kind of a humane organization is that?!!! They also believe that shelters shouldn't have to deal with local rescues to take dogs or cats that are going to be killed because moving them is to stressful for the animal. If that isn't a load of crap!!! Its just far easier to kill an animal then to make some phone calls to find a rescue to take them. Its called laziness & greed!!!!! I will put my money into local rescues & encourage everyone to do the same!!Kim McDonellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15334552570205840276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-74224410256364265392012-03-09T10:28:24.431-05:002012-03-09T10:28:24.431-05:00I wouldn't give the SPCA a dime of my money!!!...I wouldn't give the SPCA a dime of my money!!!! They're behind the Paulin "quick Kill" bill & they also have done everything in their power to prove that no-kill doesn't work when it does. They're ok with killing millions of companion animals every year. What kind of a humane organization is that?!!! They also believe that shelters shouldn't have to deal with local rescues to take dogs or cats that are going to be killed because moving them is to stressful for the animal. If that isn't a load of crap!!! Its just far easier to kill an animal then to make some phone calls to find a rescue to take them. Its called laziness & greed!!!!! I will put my money into local rescues & encourage everyone to do the same!!Kim McDonellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15334552570205840276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-40327649828506800192011-09-14T05:26:32.219-04:002011-09-14T05:26:32.219-04:00Noticed they were quick to jump in and toot their ...Noticed they were quick to jump in and toot their horn about saving dogs from Austin - seemed more about getting noticed than saving animals. Hard to believe any dogs ever game their way.<br /><br />Having tried to work with their policies for taking dogs if you don't deliver to the dog they don't want the dog...only the most highly adoptable, no pits etc. <br /><br />This from a group with a fleet of donated vehicles....demands made to the rescues with no staff - only volunteers. Greedy Greedy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-48109165133396997322011-02-27T13:17:21.908-05:002011-02-27T13:17:21.908-05:00I don't know which of Matt's many failings...I don't know which of Matt's many failings led to his departure, guys. Was it the lies? The aggression? The incompetence and fiscal irresponsibility? The cyber-stalking? The threats made to elected officials?<br /><br />So many possibilities. . .BlueDogStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740833336056226653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-29392406490252550072011-02-24T21:07:23.625-05:002011-02-24T21:07:23.625-05:00Blue Dog State....can you find out why Matt Deange...Blue Dog State....can you find out why Matt Deangelis was fired from Pets Alive?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-72559373064429598482010-12-28T09:19:56.600-05:002010-12-28T09:19:56.600-05:00That loser (Matt) is gone! See http://petsalive....That loser (Matt) is gone! See http://petsalive.com/staff.htm. I heard he was fired.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-10413674695390117012010-12-06T21:37:49.946-05:002010-12-06T21:37:49.946-05:00http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?...http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20101206/NEWS/12060326/-1/SITEMAP<br /><br />Also note, that Sara's house that 'volunteers' used to be able to us, is being rented out for 1k monthly instead. One has to wonder who this resort in PR is really going to be for ? The 'volunteers' or the staff as a retreat. after all saving the world is tiring. And is paying for the airfare, hotels, meals, etc of those scouting locations ? This expansion seems like a waste and abuse of funding. Come on, most people in PR do not want to adopt a dog. So who is this really for ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-58980947732692443272010-12-06T21:31:09.322-05:002010-12-06T21:31:09.322-05:00Are you aware Pets Alive is opening a B & B &q...Are you aware Pets Alive is opening a B & B "non-profit" in Puerto Rico ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-17766256827104875962010-11-15T14:32:05.641-05:002010-11-15T14:32:05.641-05:00Matt was one of the people responsible for letting...Matt was one of the people responsible for letting that place turn into a hellhole. He let it happen. Those animals SUFFERED because of him and Sara. What idiot decided he was capable of running the place? He's probably still hiding dogs in the basement like Sara did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-61726935133127864742010-09-04T20:51:56.805-04:002010-09-04T20:51:56.805-04:00oh, and finally, Matt. . .
Hope you removed the d...oh, and finally, Matt. . .<br /><br />Hope you removed the dead chicken from the road in front of the property the other day. <br /><br />Wouldn't want Rob and the press to have seen that, would we?BlueDogStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740833336056226653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-17580026522607725402010-09-04T20:51:49.291-04:002010-09-04T20:51:49.291-04:00oh, and finally, Matt. . .
Hope you removed the d...oh, and finally, Matt. . .<br /><br />Hope you removed the dead chicken from the road in front of the property the other day. <br /><br />Wouldn't want Rob and the press to have seen that, would we?BlueDogStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740833336056226653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-4188985027745240112010-09-04T16:41:05.897-04:002010-09-04T16:41:05.897-04:00And by the way, Matt:
Who says I've never b...And by the way, Matt: <br /><br />Who says I've never been at Pets Alive? Did you ever consider that you might have seen me a while ago, if you looked over your shoulder?<br /> <br />What ever happened to Sara's house, anyway? The one that was willed to Kerri, and Adam had to make the mortgage payments?<br /><br />Did you ever sell it?BlueDogStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740833336056226653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-76524025268389107802010-09-04T14:30:28.014-04:002010-09-04T14:30:28.014-04:00Matt, your problem with numbers and dates must be ...Matt, your problem with numbers and dates must be pathological.<br /><br />The truth <i>will</i> catch up to you and the trusting donors and volunteers --not to mention helpless pets that have no choice in the matter. <br /><br />Either you. . .<br /><br />(a) can't calculate how much time elapsed between November 24, 2009 and September 4, 2010, or <br /><br />(b) complusively lie about just about anything, hoping no one will notice.<br /><br />Personally, I'm going with "b"BlueDogStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740833336056226653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-74560444282097798792010-09-04T12:36:22.987-04:002010-09-04T12:36:22.987-04:00Yeah...it's all true.
Blue Dog State Dude, ...Yeah...it's all true. <br /><br />Blue Dog State Dude, we've been inviting you to Pets Alive for a YEAR. <br /><br />You never show.<br /><br />And a "former" employee? Puh-lease.<br /><br />Anyone who wants to come look for themselves is welcome to.<br /><br />We continue to grow (we doubled in size this year), despite you idiot naysayers.<br /><br />COME ON DOWN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-6569776752907647622010-07-26T16:49:19.079-04:002010-07-26T16:49:19.079-04:00To the above poster. Are you a current or former e...To the above poster. Are you a current or former employee of pets alive? As a former employee myself I can vouch for all of what you said above.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-45786417481706528072010-07-22T14:45:17.071-04:002010-07-22T14:45:17.071-04:00Let me tell you, Pets Alive is little more than an...Let me tell you, Pets Alive is little more than an animal broker under the guise of a 'rescue'. I have seen people come in off the street, pick out and animal, fill out an 'application', have a copy of their drivers license taken and been told, the dog fee is $225.00. The office workers sit in the office all day long with the ac on, eating donuts, never, NEVER have I seen any of them interacting with the animal unless the media is around. They rely on the volunteers and constantly cry 'poor' when they have a surplus of donatations that they don't know where to store it. As far as temperment assesement goes, it is based upon the first interaction upon the animals arrival.They are either 'green' 'yellow'or 'red'. The animals are not walked unless or have little interaction unless a volunteer takes it upon themeselves. So, is Pets Alive an animal sanctuary or an animal scam ? Probably a little of both.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-6421538462886089232010-07-09T12:08:51.991-04:002010-07-09T12:08:51.991-04:00I love this blog! I really do! A friend of mine st...I love this blog! I really do! A friend of mine stumbled upon it and showed it to me! Pets Alive is a crooked place, run by people who are good talkers, but really know very little. They don't believe in temperment testing, and have had quite a few dogs returned after being adopted because the dogs were either aggressive toward people or toward the other animals in the house, and the adopters were given no warning about the dogs temperment! Does not seem like a responsible place to me! They talk a good game, and draw people in! But if people got a chance to see behind the scenes I'm sure they wouldn't be so keen to support these people!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-76282378424078317452009-12-12T23:10:45.573-05:002009-12-12T23:10:45.573-05:00Sookey, how would you treat a breeder who was unde...Sookey, how would you treat a breeder who was under such conditions?Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00024665871872480537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-2444660719626552912009-12-11T10:42:45.367-05:002009-12-11T10:42:45.367-05:00There are various extenuating circumstances here. ...There are various extenuating circumstances here. Pets Alive was<br />established as a sanctuary by Sara<br />Whelan using donations from friends. THose friends actually<br />rescued her from living homeless mostly in Central Park (Manhattan)<br />with her own three or four rescued<br />big dogs. With further donations,<br />she and some (mostly volunteer?)<br />help did run the sanctuary pretty<br />well for some years until she became ill with cancer. Reportedly, she hated to give up<br />control of her sanctuary and concealed from the Pets Alive board<br />and supporters the gravity of her<br />illness until near the very end of<br />her life. (She was never easy to<br />get along with, though very good <br />with all animals.)<br /><br />So, yes, in the last two years of<br />Sara's life, conditions at Pets<br />Alive deteriorated, as her health<br />limited her energies, and she refused to ask for the help she<br />needed.<br /><br />But she indeed had some 30 years of<br />experience caring for animals by the time she died, if not more, and<br />whatever else might be said of Best<br />Friends, they did come through to<br />clean up the mess Sara left behind.<br /><br />No doubt the Pets Alive board should have been more attentive, but as a former member of a board<br />of a nonprofit facility myself, I<br />can tell you that unless conditions<br />at the facility are very obviously<br />deficient, the boards usually hesitate to interfere with their<br />paid employees' work.Sookeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-59705504212959994672009-12-10T16:22:21.798-05:002009-12-10T16:22:21.798-05:00It's amazing how much things really are about ...It's amazing how much things really are about money. Unfortunately, I've seen many people who are well-meaning succomb to gray and even unethical practices because of money.Dog kennelshttp://www.dogkennelscenter.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-17894269674311547392009-12-01T19:17:46.034-05:002009-12-01T19:17:46.034-05:00Judges should have been harsh from the beginning w...Judges should have been harsh from the beginning when so-called humane societies refused to return animals that they ordered returned. Now the humane societies think that they are above the law.<br /><br />The judge should have jailed someone at Pets Alive for contempt of court until the horses were returned.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00024665871872480537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-46796702161842787702009-11-30T18:37:12.042-05:002009-11-30T18:37:12.042-05:00Note to BDS readers:
Matt's further response f...Note to BDS readers:<br />Matt's further response failed to substantively address the questions posed, although he did throw out bait as best he could. The questions were based on facts, public records (or lack of same) and/or or Pets Alive's and Best Friend's own writings, duly linked for easy reference.<br /><br />Bye-bye, Matt. You had your chance, and you blew it.BlueDogStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740833336056226653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-78674318555213527482009-11-30T14:21:28.134-05:002009-11-30T14:21:28.134-05:00Spoken like a modern media warrior!
Except ther...Spoken like a modern media warrior! <br /><br />Except there aren't two sides to breaking the law and no amount of dodging, weaving and misdirection will answer the questions you carefully and completely fail to address.<br /><br />Did you really think no one would check on the "30 years of experience" you claimed over and over again? Any explanation for the missing 10 or 27 years?<br /><br />What "expertise" with aggressive dogs? Why hasn't Pets Alive filed with the NYS Charities Bureau for five years, and what "reputable" animal sanctuary gets foreclosed on? <br /><br />Best Friends indicated that conditions at Pets Alive deteriorated to the point of crisis "over years" while animals suffered--kenneled in the dark, malnourished, worm-infested. . . <br /><br />Where<i> were</i> you?BlueDogStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740833336056226653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-24413392400619851622009-11-30T12:37:11.814-05:002009-11-30T12:37:11.814-05:00As always, there are two sides to every story.
...As always, there are two sides to every story. <br /><br />We save a thousand animals a year from death. You preen like you've discovered a grand conspiracy. The few facts that you've actually managed to get right are public knowledge. In fact, most of them are on our web site and Best Friends.<br /><br />I will not bother to address the most ludicrous of your claims such as our administrative skills.<br /><br />We make the same offer to you we made to the ASPCA...come visit Pets Alive before you make judgments. In fact, I will personally pay for your round trip ticket any time.<br /><br />As usual, I am amazed at the excuses and misdirection. We "bash" others. No...we step up and defend the lives of animals who would otherwise be killed. There IS a right and wrong here, and the ASPCA is wrong. <br /><br />If you want to debate Pets Alive's administrative skills, adoption policies, alleged ignoring of court orders or other ludicrous claims that you've filed under "respectability", then bring it on. <br /><br />Otherwise lets stick to the real issue here, which is <b><i>should an animal be killed when there is another option for that animal?</i></b>.<br /><br />Don't sympathize with our "story." In fact, we're not trolling for supporters or friends. We're accepting responsibility for the animals we have a moral obligation to care for. <br /><br />If you want to know more about us, don't paste together Google news stories or take stuff out of context from our website. Get off your rear and and come see for yourself.<br /><br />The ignorance in the comments to this post is as scary as the post itself. <br /><br />Matt DeAngelis<br />Pets AliveMatt DeAngelis, Pets Alivehttp://petsalive.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-10803433358900848252009-11-29T18:40:55.979-05:002009-11-29T18:40:55.979-05:00Hm, I still think the ASPCA did the wrong thing in...Hm, I still think the ASPCA did the wrong thing in euthanizing Oreo, but they also claimed to have no idea who PetsAlive are and deny being contacted by them. The fact that it's a 'he said she said' situation, and PetsAlive is apparently not all that respectable of a group, makes me not quite as willing to sympathize with PA's story.Paihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14108169893140762249noreply@blogger.com