tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post8404368512808875081..comments2023-10-16T06:16:42.086-04:00Comments on Blue Dog State: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-982373839434559532009-01-17T19:18:00.000-05:002009-01-17T19:18:00.000-05:00Well ,due to high number of recent busts of reputa...Well ,due to high number of recent busts of reputable A.P.B.T breeders . I believe that The anti-A.P.B.T supporters are trying to put a dent in the actual genepool of the historical traits of the A.P.B.T, by having them destroyed before thier owners can rescue them or ,that, they can be tested for possible addoption ,and not just trying to stamp out the breed by trumping up bogus charges to convict A.P.B.T breeders.trumping up charges on "Suspected"dogfighters has also been a tactic used by people who feel that the only reason domestic dogs are allowed to live amongst humans today is for companionship,as technology has replaced 'most' of the jobs, of the breeds that were allowed domestication for its contribution to mans survival,such as performance and working breeds,however I feel that they fail to recognize the fact that since man has allowed domestication of the wild canid ,we have also in effect inherited the responsability of having to keep thier poulation under control,having to euthanize the domestic wild canid by the millions across the nation.Do we euthanize our companions?Is the need for man to marvel at the emotions shared by man and domestic dog ,so great that we "man" are willing to kill the domestic wild canid by the hundreds of thousands in order to control its overpopulation ?.I believe that there is more to man having allowed domestication of the wild canid then just companionship.True most jobs required of these dogs have been replaced by technology but their traits can still be utalized by man in the spirit of competition ,and not all the jobs of working dogs have been replaced by technology.Some would also argue that the cruelty involved in performing the tasks that working and performance breeds are made to perform is overly cruel ,but of course they fail to recognize that these breeds having been bred for centuries,have indeed developed traits to help them deal with the overall trauma of the tasks that they are asked to perform,horseback riding for example ,There is nothing in the wild horses natural state that requires it to carry a different species on its back,but due to its importance to mans survival it was domesticated for that use.So trumping up bogus charges against The people who perserve these breeds really hurts society rather then helping it,if man wants to stop overly cruel acts to animals and other problems associsted with the Domestic dog we need not "Punish the Deed or the Breed' but rather engage in intellectual conversation so that we can agree on just what the actuall "facts"are and maybey ,finally we can make some dents in overly cruel acts to animals and problems associated with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-29425153929918520262009-01-04T08:41:00.000-05:002009-01-04T08:41:00.000-05:00"Our homes were our castles and HSUS hadn't yet pe..."Our homes were our castles and HSUS hadn't yet perverted or breeched turning those sanctuaries of peace into HSUS public-private hunting grounds..."<BR/><BR/>In MS we have a Castle Law. It says that if someone is at your home stealing or threatening you, you can shoot them and it's legal. They don't have to be inside the home. In fact if they are trying to car jack your car you can shoot them with impunity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-59642922765091716252009-01-04T08:34:00.000-05:002009-01-04T08:34:00.000-05:00This makes my blood run cold. I'm mad as hell and...This makes my blood run cold. I'm mad as hell and I'm not taking it any more. When his dogs are destroyed, my dogs are destroyed. We can not continue to sit and think it is happening to the other guy. <BR/><BR/>This lady is planning to produce a series of articles for publication to help shine a light on the animal rights cockroaches. She wants information of this type to show how American citizens are being harmed and harassed by these groups. I'm only posting the bottom of her original post. I have friends in CA that are afraid to license their dogs for fear Big Brother will come and take them. Me I just buy more ammo. <BR/><BR/>"I have a hunch this may evolve into a series of articles, but to begin, I would like to interview those who have been targeted, threatened and harassed "specifically" by AR groups, i.e., phone calls, emails, physical contacts, visits from AC, etc...<BR/><BR/>Permission to cross-post, and feel free to reply privately. <BR/><BR/>Tina Perriguey<BR/>AllianceDogSport@aol.com"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-6610323066885448742008-12-29T16:19:00.000-05:002008-12-29T16:19:00.000-05:00Allie--Post has been deleted -- sorry it slipped t...Allie--<BR/><BR/>Post has been deleted -- sorry it slipped through.<BR/><BR/>BDSBlueDogStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740833336056226653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-49750204658327610082008-12-29T13:10:00.000-05:002008-12-29T13:10:00.000-05:00Great blog post. Be aware though that the state is...Great blog post. Be aware though that the state is still trying to forfeit the Patrick's home under Rico laws. Although there was no crime and therefore could be no conspiracy, try and tell the "law" that.<BR/><BR/>Also, bluedog can you please delete the comment about me? I do not see what insulting me when I had not posted here, been mentioned or anything of the sort has to do with anything. <BR/><BR/>I am sure the psycho's at dogsbite.org who posted that will be pissed but I'd much appreciate it.<BR/><BR/>Allie Renar<BR/>www.Stop-BSL.comFreedom Puphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045529370073227609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-2436488552969665392008-12-25T12:21:00.000-05:002008-12-25T12:21:00.000-05:00Merry Christmas! Please consider for all--the Crus...Merry Christmas! Please consider for all--the Crusade against HSUS. See http.petdefense.wordpress.com for link, the credibility of HSUS must be hammered down by US because no one will do it for us.Please consider joining and passing it forward to benefit all pet owners/the public. Thank you and congrats on winning your Dog Fed lawsuit!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-57969012161809455542008-12-18T14:52:00.000-05:002008-12-18T14:52:00.000-05:00LOL! Thanks, anonymous! I had not seen that "we-...LOL! Thanks, anonymous! I had not seen that "we-just-retooled-the-preamble" spin. <BR/><BR/>Donna, baby, you are priceless. <BR/><BR/>Only Bad Rap could claim that they <I>don't</I> support mandatory spay-neuter, but they <I>did</I> support AB 1634. That is, Bad Rap supported AB 1634 until it got too watered down for their tastes.<BR/><BR/>They <I>don't</I> support BSL, but they <I>did</I> work on SB 861 in order to get the wording just right.<BR/><BR/>Ah, Bad Rap. Deny, deny, deny. . .BlueDogStatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740833336056226653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-66097506216361104602008-12-17T23:37:00.000-05:002008-12-17T23:37:00.000-05:00Here you have it from the horse's mouth:http://bto...Here you have it from the horse's mouth:<BR/><BR/>http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2008/05/no-kill-vs-msn.html#comment-116339142<BR/><BR/>"Actually, BR did not make any mistakes by re-tooling the preamble language of SB861. We have no regrets -- de-railing the insurance disaster that was imminent with this bill was the wisest thing we could've done for our dogs."<BR/><BR/>[snip]<BR/><BR/>There's more to the comment.<BR/><BR/>Here's another one from another BR member:<BR/><BR/>http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2008/01/update-and-vide.html#comment-98972058<BR/><BR/>"Michelle, we initially supported AB 1634, the all breed mandatory s/n bill mainly because it had the potential of eliminating CA's current allowance for bsl. But the language got so crazy that we couldn't support it.<BR/><BR/>Emily, call it what you like but we never came out and supported 861. If we did, we would be encouraging places to implement it instead of promoting voluntary spay/neuter.<BR/><BR/>It's no secret, so I'll tell you the same thing we told our conference attendees a few years back: We did help cap any potential bsl to mandated spay/neuter only as it related to overpopulation."<BR/>[snip]<BR/><BR/>Any questions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-65314165530782945562008-12-17T04:53:00.000-05:002008-12-17T04:53:00.000-05:00I'm curious about your comments concerning Bad Rap...I'm curious about your comments concerning Bad Rap. Specifically, where did you find out they co-wrote SB 861? All information I've gathered suggested they were and are quite opposed to mandatory spay/neuter. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, just curious. If you've got other information I'd love to see it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-16684141980566356662008-12-08T18:09:00.000-05:002008-12-08T18:09:00.000-05:00For those that haven't seen it, I suggest that you...For those that haven't seen it, I suggest that you look at the FEAR site which is linked on petdefense blogroll. They have articles written by attorneys on how forfeiture is working, and how they get away with it.<BR/><BR/>Rather than lawsuits, which take forever and produce little to show for it, petdefense is aiming for Grassroots advocacy. One of the big things is the CHOICE to buy a dog before that gets taken away. If that is gone, the rest won't matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-67532469367045777022008-12-06T15:45:00.000-05:002008-12-06T15:45:00.000-05:00Still on Pet Abuse...boy, I'll bet they hated to u...Still on Pet Abuse...boy, I'll bet they hated to update their liabelous page!<BR/>http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/13181/AZ/US/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-39838318192299291762008-12-04T10:32:00.000-05:002008-12-04T10:32:00.000-05:00TL Williams was the subject of a bust in CA. He wa...TL Williams was the subject of a bust in CA. He was found innocent and his dogs were returned not in the condition they went into"protective" care. There were scars, broken and missing teeth, demodex, sores, and the list goes on.<BR/><BR/>The dogs taken at Pat's were not just his. There were some dogs of a former PP friend that were involved and killed as well. So if you send your bitch to be bred or loan your stud to a friend in AZ be wary. After all Pima County never asked who actually owned the dogs they took.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-58040723320458033042008-12-03T12:33:00.000-05:002008-12-03T12:33:00.000-05:00Good post. It's too bad the msm is asleep at the ...Good post. It's too bad the msm is asleep at the wheel (per usual) because people need to know what's really going on.<BR/><BR/>They have software now that allows you to create a virtual replica of your system. It's complex and I don't understand it but I imagine it would be right up the HSUS's alley.<BR/><BR/>Has anyone mentioned that Goodwin is a convicted felon in the msm lately?<BR/><BR/>Don't think this is just about 'pit bulls'. There are many other breeds which are traditionally TRAINED to fight. 'Pit bulls' have just been nicely isolated and their owners dehumanized through systematic propaganda. Read Goebbels's essays some time if you haven't - this whole scene is right out of his playbook.<BR/><BR/>Owning an animal is a crime in some places and the concept is spreading. As long as everybody keeps yapping about 'pit bulls' it will proceed as planned because like it or not, most people don't give a s**t about 'pit bulls'.<BR/><BR/>Time to stop preaching to the converted and keep trying to get the message out to the passive audience that gets its info from the msm.<BR/><BR/>But you all knew that.Caveathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712858257904194590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-80022716822339011562008-12-01T05:04:00.000-05:002008-12-01T05:04:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-90639086621937273862008-12-01T04:07:00.000-05:002008-12-01T04:07:00.000-05:00I haven't been laughing but I did have to laugh-- ...I haven't been laughing but I did have to laugh-- very loudly-- at this! WTF does BR Reynolds know? What she knows is what she TELLS her readers..if someone comes or asks for help because they want to surrender their own pit dog, she tells them to find it a home but if one can't find a home, then have your own vet KILL it. So if she tells people that, do we expect any smart advice out of an idiot like that? NAH. And thanks for saying BR enabled SB861 since it's the truth. Hell, she co-wrote it with Jennifer Fearing. The J. Fearing of HSUS, formerly she was with United Animal Nations in CA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-14478672465195756572008-11-30T23:06:00.000-05:002008-11-30T23:06:00.000-05:00Once upon a time long ago our country had a basis...Once upon a time long ago our country had a basis in law called The Constitution of the United States of America. We even had real patriots that pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honors to uphold this substructure leaving America a place we loved and wanted to call home. That was then; this is now when patriotism has no more meaning than any other 98 cent bumper sticker. And it was before politicians as cardboard fronts for multinatonals -- openly for sale to the highest bidder, err, donor, murdered our constitution along with all of the God given rights of three hundred million plus of us in one dark night of perfidy. Our homes were our castles and HSUS hadn't yet perverted or breeched turning those sanctuaries of peace into HSUS public-private hunting grounds...with the targets being us, our every asset we've accrued through life -- and our animals whether pets or food. In a fairy tale, government would do as designed and protect us, our possessions, and our homes from invasion. Instead in today's reality HSUS has become a part of our states out to rape each of us with animals down through goldfish of every last dime of personal assets and constitutionally guaranteed protections. No longer is government our servant. It has become as illigitimate as is its henchman, HSUS, and all other animal radicals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-64975024814923684102008-11-30T20:36:00.000-05:002008-11-30T20:36:00.000-05:00The damage is much worse than most folks think. I...The damage is much worse than most folks think. I have no "proof" but rumor (from a very reliable source) told me that at TL Williams' house JP Goodwin was in and out of the house and his office several times, for as long as 10 min. The interesting thing is that you can download a computer's hard drive, and memory onto a memory stick in under 3 min. <BR/>TL was the owner of the second largest registry for the APBT and all his registry information was on that computer. Not only that but, the new owner of the AADR has received a message (AR in nature) from the IP addy of this same computer that belonged to TL and was suppose to be in "properties" as evidence at the sherriff's office in Pima County AZ.<BR/>Now ain't that a wooping,. The computer that is in evidence at the sherriff's office is sending out messages. Not only that, but why should the H$U$ pay big bucks to folks who say they know Joe Blow is fighting dogs, when they have a full registry of folks. Just pick your "fighter de jour" JP and see where you get. Sooner or later the folks who are busted with this illegal help will be able to get that word to THEIR lawyers and blow H$U$ out of the water.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-42084738182727577672008-11-30T15:41:00.000-05:002008-11-30T15:41:00.000-05:00I sure hope so...that is a terrible story and its ...I sure hope so...that is a terrible story and its happening more sadly. Of course dogs in bad conditions are a exclusion to the rule. When dogs are being taken care of the county should mind their own business and leave people alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35437039.post-75553116783568132332008-11-30T02:25:00.000-05:002008-11-30T02:25:00.000-05:00Will it be possible for the owners to sue - for re...Will it be possible for the owners to sue - for replacement costs if nothing else - since their dogs were killed?Barbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13378199204420558607noreply@blogger.com